[It's definitely far from an easy thing to understand. Barnham knows. He's been wrestling with all of this from day one, and now...

Well, now what is he supposed to do with this? Noctis is struggling with it, but Barnham has no answers, much as he wish he could give him something that would make him feel better.

He sighs.]

That is...certainly one way to look at it.

[Wryly:]

Though I think the point could have been proven in a much simpler and less bloody way.